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Sion Kumitomo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.30 21:46:17 -
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The continued misuse of the word 'awox' in this thread has me in quite a state. Check your history, almost all of you are wrong.
This change would literally only effect hisec. Seriously. That's it. Want to shoot your mates in low/null/wh? Go nuts. There is otherwise no impact anywhere else with this.
That is, unless your entire gameplay style is centered on abusing people who don't understand counterintuitive gameplay mechanics in EVE's 'safest' systems, in which case I'm sure this will impact you, and I'm so very sorry you're unable to take on real challenges and lack the imagination to think of other ways to hurt people. Basically, you're dumb if you think that anyone who knows what real risk means is going to hop on some terrible hyberbolic bandwagon defending your right to beat up the proverbial new kid and take their lunch money.
Or to put it another way, HTFU yourselves you bunch of whiners.
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Sion Kumitomo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.30 21:58:04 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Sion Kumitomo wrote:That is, unless your entire gameplay style is centered on abusing people who don't understand counterintuitive gameplay mechanics in EVE's 'safest' systems, so when's the ETA on banning scams? when's the ETA on banning mission baiting? you are banning those too, i assume, since they're also centered on the same things.
If you straw man any harder you might soon be joined by a tin man and a cowardly lion.
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Sion Kumitomo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.30 22:12:48 -
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Mharius Skjem wrote:Syn Shi wrote:Mharius Skjem wrote:Syn Shi wrote:Mharius Skjem wrote:My old corp got awoxed loads of times, on account of the fact that we were deeply unpopular...
Despite that, though I think it's a mistake to remove the ability to awox corps.
When I got awoxed it made me so goddam mad, it spured me and my corp mates into action against who we thought was responsible.
In other words it's the unpleasant stuff like corporate heists and awoxing, ganking etc that makes you emotionally invest in your character, your ships and your friends. If we lose awoxing then we lose one more route to emotinal investment.
If eve becomes a game without emotional investment then it is really is dead regardless of subscriber numbers. Awox will still be possible if the rumor ends up being true. Only change is now you will have consequences. And as many have demonstrated,,,,some of the so called pvp'rs and content creators don't want consequences for themselves. Tell me more about these consequences... I'm still reading the 146 page pdf (which by the way I love). You are reading the wrong stuffs. "There seems to be a strong suggestion that you will soon no longer be able to "legally" shoot corpmates, and the implication seems to be that shooting corpmates will be a criminal act in highsec that will be met with CONCORD retribution." The only ones saying awoxing is going to disappear are the ones who don't like the fact that the only baseless thing that was mentioned was that now Concord would step in. Which translates into someone not wanting to awox anymore because they will lose their ship as well. Then it's a sad change. Eve is at it's most beautiful and enticing when she is at her most brutal... If we keep going like this then soon there wont be any risk at all left in highsec and that is not what eve is about. A concord response is not warranted here. Does this mean that training ops for corps now have to take place in low sec or null and that if I engage my corp-mates whilst training I will lose security status as well as my ship? If so it's going to break a huge chunk of the game.
Hey look, it's a slippery slope fallacy.
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Sion Kumitomo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.30 22:22:29 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Sion Kumitomo wrote:Hey look, it's a slippery slope fallacy.
how many high sec nerfs do there have to be for it to stop being a fallacy? cos like, i'm not sure there's much left to nerf. edit: or at least, there won't be if ccp get their way.
There's like 16 pages about how this is a hisec buff. Are you sure it's a nerf? Or are we at the point of the discussion where we're just throwing things out and hoping something resonates?
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